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Mod8: Well, isn't that something? Thing is, I'm going to have to take the post.
:: post is taken and the boards are set aflame ::
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Troll Panther. 90% of the time, it flames all of the time.
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Quote:I agree. Except for the Super Bowl, I can't remember the last time at least a few ads were tailored specifically for the show it was airing during.I think the article, or the people doing the research, missed the point entirely. It wasn't that people loved the frequency of the ads, but rather the way the ads celebrated the show.
Come on, it's one of the biggest shows ever done, with one of the most anticipated finales, ever! If you pay homage, or reference the show while it's going on, then yeah, the viewers are going to love you for it. Did Target's ads raise the bar for ingenuity in advertising? I think so. But it wasn't watching the ad repeatedly that made it a success. Clever sells (and gets peoples attention). Why is that so hard for these people to wrap their head around? -
Quote:Lost: The Musical?You're man-crush just went to oogy.
Last night I had a Lost dream. From what I could make sense of it, it seems Jack and Locke were given a real second chance to redo their time together. But this time they had special "Jacob-Like" powers, and sang a buddy-song duet before diving into the ocean. Then things became somewhat reminiscent of the video for Radiohead's Pyramid Song. And then things got weird. -
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On the online message boards, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: the original poster, who instigates conversation, and the flaming trollers, who stir up the community. These are their posts.
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Chuck Klosterman (pop cultrue raconteur and Lost fan) has an interesting theory: the real reason why everything happened, that all the crazy stuff happened, was to get Jack's soul to move on. That is, forces from the great beyond, caused the plane to crash in the real world and get Jack to meet these people (and I supposed for those people to meet everyone else) so in the next plane of existance, he can settle his flaws and he can move on.
A twist on the flash-sideways. Not sure if agree with that, because it seems like that is placing the effect before the cause. -
It also begs the question if Keamy and his crew were who Jin was originally supposed to deliver the watch to and he incorporated into it the world, or if he just needed a big bad and used Keamy. Which would make some sense, since Keamy was the one who "killed" Jin on the Freighter, via the explosion.
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Here's a question: If everyone we saw that was connected to the Island is not a construct (ala Faraday, Ms. Hawking), then what happened to Keamy and his crew when they were "killed?" Do they start over? Or go to that bad place that is oh so hot?
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Quote:Because that was never said on the show.Why do you continually call him "MiB" when his name was Samuel.
In fact, the producers said that they decided not to tell us, the general audience, his name, because they think it makes him a more intriguing character.
So yeah, his name was Samuel in the script, but like how Edward Norton's character is called Jack in the script for Fight Club, but never named as such on screen, the audience and pop culture will refer to the character as being nameless.
It might be insidery knowledge that his name was intended to be Samuel, but it is not exactly canon. It would be the same for things we have learned from deleted scenes. -
Posts, Michael. Flames are what trolls do for money.
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Okay, haven't started working of "We Didn't Start The Light," the parody of "We Didn't Start the Fire," but I was inspired (i.e. bored) to write this:
"Man in Black" Parody of The Rolling Stones "Paint it Black"
I see a small boy and I think, The Man in Black
No colors in his clothes, he is called Man in Black
His real mother was killed by CJ at the time of birth
We are not given his name for what that is worth
He sees a group of men and they're all corrupt, black
He desires to leave Island, never to come back
Jacob cannot stop him, tries to turn him away
Because there are rules that they follow every day
Games, they like to play, Jacob and the Man in Black
One side white, and whatelse, the other side is black
Man in Black he fade away when thrown in the cave of Light
Jacob and he got into a really big bro fight
No more MiB, just the big bad smokey thing
Jacob could not foresee this happening to him
If we look hard enough over the entire haul
The smoke will judge you first before he kills us all
I see a small boy and I think, The Man in Black
No colors in his clothes, he is called Man in Black
He just wants to leave the Island in his Fake Locke clothes
But we all go to hell if his darkness goes
Tik, tik, tik,...
He wanna see the outside, outside world
Man in Black, Man in Black
He wanna see Island sunken down from the sea
He appears as some dead men, dead mean, dead men, Black
Yeah!
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Quote:Regarding Lost, I know in the first season, they used to go whoever the episode was centered on's house and watch it there.Caught the replay of the Aloha To Lost Jimmy Kimmel show yesterday. It was pretty good for what it was. I found it interesting that so many of them hadn't seen the finale until that night, and Naveen Andrews admitted that he didn't really watch the series at all, outside of the pilot. So here's a question to ponder:
If you put your heart and soul into a project, whether it be making a TV show/movie, or creating a video game, etc, wouldn't you take the time to watch/play it when it's done? I suppose for some actors they wouldn't enjoy watching the finished episodes because they'd spend all their time wishing they'd have done things different or wondering why their epic performance got edited to hell, but I think if I were really invested in a project, I'd want to partake of the finished product, probably with others to get their reactions.
However, I can see how some may not want to watch themselves out of self-doubts and maybe even something similar to what Michael Giacchino said about getting the script before hand. Giacchino did not write/record his music knowing what will be coming, for fear out of spoiling a twist by use of the characters' themes. He would literally watch the episode in bits and pieces and score appropriately. I can see some actors not wanting to know what is happening away from their characters, for fear of knowing what Ben and Juliet are up to half way cross the Island coloring their own performances.
That being said, I am sure Jorge Garcia watches the show and I bet a few others watch a handful of episodes each season as well. Naveen would seem to be from the old school of acting, where you keep your head down and keep doing what you think is natural, don't try to adjust, until someone else says differently. One can also say there wasn't really a finished product until the show was over. -
On the subject of fires and what starts them, I am very tempted to write a parody of "We Didn't Start The Fire" that outlines the history of the Island/Losties.
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Can you sum up your position on posting one word?
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Quote:I guess in hindsight, I could have been more polite. Thanks for the heads upValid point BBM, but i was more referring to the last post that you quoted PP in. She'd made it pretty obivious she was done with the healthy discussion part and your post seemed to be moving into a trolling part. Just saying cause you are usually one of the more conscientious poster. But whatever, i'm done playing forum police, we return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
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Quote:Ah, but on the other hand, I think it is healthy to at least discuss it. Me, personally, I like hearing her opinion (a not so glowing one) on it and have a conversation. It is good to get a wide range of opinions. It helps me organize my own thoughts. If that comes across as attacking her, I apologize.I know i usualy disagree with PP but she does have the right to her opinion. And just cause some disagree doesn't mean they "got' the show any better than she did. You've made your counter argument, let it drop please.
Especially for Lost, a show that is open to many interpretations. So, yes, while some may say one did not "get it," everyone is right in their view. But going back and forth saying "Oh, did you catch this?" or "This is what Lost is saying, in my opinion" may get both sides to open their own interpretations to things they previously shrugged off.
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Also, I don't think Christian Shephard saying their time on the Island was the most important time in their lives means all the time after is pointless. Claire and Kate are still going to raise Aaron. But...
...it is Claire and Kate's time on the Island that made them want to raise Aaron. Claire was ready to give up her baby for adoption until she crashed on the Island. She was able to form a bond with her son because of that.
Kate formed a bond with Claire and was able to become a mother (in the mental sense) because she took Aaron when Claire was led astray. And because she came back to the Island, she was able to convince Claire to resume her motherhood.
They might have done great things, regarding Aaron, afterwards, but they only were able to because of their time on the Island.
Additionally, Claire fell in love with Charlie, who had his own struggles, but in the end, gave his life to save her and Aaron. Even before his death, he risked his life to save Turniphead. She might fall in love again, get married, but it wouldn't be the same sort of love. That doesn't invalidate her future husband, it is just a different sort of situation.
Kate, too. With Jack, she found someone who loved her and was able to risk his life for her, despite her past. Kate and Sawyer all have criminal pasts. Yes, they might find love in the real world, but they have that hanging over their heads. With Jack/Juliet, they found partners who truly did not care about that. As Jack said in Tabula Rasa, the second episode of the series, on the Island, the past does not matter. In a way, Kate/Jack and Sawyer/Juliet represented pure, innocent love. And that is very intense.
Sawyer's time on the Island resulted in his growth and maturity. He became a leader. He also learned, in the final season, to defer to other people in accepting Jack's final plan. He had the most character growth on the show, so of course, while he might do great things off Island, it is only because he spent time on the Island, interacting with Jack, interacting with Juliet, interacting with Sun and Jin and Hurley.
So Claire, Kate, and Sawyer may do very important things in their future, but who they are in that future is not the same as who they were before they go to the Island. And they recognize that. The Island made them confront their flaws. They became better people. I would say the most important time in one's life is not the time they do great things, but the time they decided to do great things. The fire only gets started when a spark is provided. -
Quote:How did you feel at the end of Titanic, when Rose died and she returned to Jack and the rest of the Titanic crew and passengers? Even though she had grandkids and was apparently married for a long time?Yanno, we just disagree. Yes the island happened to them. And? Some of them GOT OFF the island. So what then? Their lives were pointless? They never fell inlove again? They couldnt move on? How was Hugo as the #1? What happened for his turn?
You liked it I didnt. move on.