B_Witched

Originally Posted by Silas

For clarification, the nophase duration is 120 seconds and kicks in as soon as you hit Phase or Hibernate, right?

And it prevents you from phasing at all until the 2 minutes are up?

So if I'm understanding it correctly, you can't hit Phase, stay phased for say 15 seconds, then hit Hibernate and be phased again directly afterwards?

My understanding is that the nophase thing is global, not specific to either phase power. So that taking both Phase Shift and Hibernate would be silly.

Am I understanding it correctly or am I totally off base here?

Originally Posted by Fahie

Thanks for the responses.

I kind of had a feeling that PVP hadn't picked up again, but was hoping that I was wrong.

One wonders if Positron etc will ever just admit that it was a bad mistake and revert to pre I13 for PVP .. lol

Still, at least the Ill/Rad is good for PvE too .. unless something has changed THERE too :P

Fahie

Originally Posted by Psoma

That's true, but my point was meant to be more about devs relating more to the mindset of the complainers that acted as if emp/blaster combos were downright unbeatable (which they weren't).

Originally Posted by Psoma

The mez system has always been an issue. While I thought the i12 system could've used some tweaking, I definitely prefer it to the i13 system. Sure a team with good emps was hard to beat, but it could be done with the right combination of opposition and/or strategy. The bigger problem with zones in i12 was the lack of motivation to get those better teams and strategies together.



Again, good emps presented a challenge to the opposition in i12 zones, but they weren't brokenly good. Certain people just refused to organize an effort to separate emps from their teammates. I heard "That's unfair! We can't kill your emp, and then your emp keeps you alive!" The devs apparently heard this too, and that's what they listened to when they came up with HD.

That's the major, discouraing thing to me. Their solution with HD (and with i13 PvP as a whole) was to lower the bar instead of encouraging and rewarding improvement. It seems that in their eyes, PvP was/is a dead end street, only offering an occasional side attraction. They see no real potential with PvP, regarding any end-game type of content, which is the exact opposite view that I have of it. I see PvP as the only lasting challenge in the game, and I think it has loads of potential. But we're not devs, and the only way we'd see any real results would be if we had devs that were capable of seeing things the way we do. Unfortunately, these devs do not; they've never even remotely given the impression that they understand. Look at their quotes and actions.

I see no reason for optimism. I'm making do with what we have left, but there aren't many people left with which to share the remaining fun.

Originally Posted by B_Witched

everyone knows dex and vex are the same person with mpd. Vex just sprained his "dex" hand dual boxing and had to send him away to the big chair for a little while.

Originally Posted by perilX

We meet here on a forum noted for idiocy, in a game noted for regress, in a community noted for elitism, and we stand in need of all three, for we meet in an hour of change and challenge, in a decade with no hope or fun, in an age of both ignorance and exodus. The greater their knowledge decreases, the greater our exodus unfolds.

Despite the striking fact that most of the developers that the game has ever known are alive and working today, despite the fact that this game’s own development manpower is doubling every 2 years in a rate of growth more than three times that of our population as a whole, despite that, the vast stretches of the unknown and the unanswered and the unfinished still far outstrip their collective comprehension.

No man can fully grasp how far and how fast we have fallen, but condense, if you will, the 5 years of PvPer recorded history in a time span of but one year. Stated in these terms, we know very little about the first 9 monthss, except at the end of them advanced man had learned to use the regen to protect them. Then about 3 months ago, under this standard, man emerged from regen to construct other kinds of characters. Only two months ago man learned to blast and use an emp for heals. PvP SGs began less than one month ago. The IOs came this week, and then less than two days ago, during this whole 1 year span of PvP history, the developers destroyed our good source of PvP. Castle explored the meaning of Diminishing Returns. Last night travel suppression and heal decay and mez changes and elusivity became available. Only today did we develop hold spikes and kinless teams and storm MMs, and now as PvP’s new era failed in reaching fruition under adversity, we will have literally been defeated by the copy tool before midnight tonight.

This is a breathtaking pace, and such a pace cannot help but create new ills as it dispels old, new ignorance, new problems, new FoTMs. Surely the opening vistas of PvP promise high costs and hardships, as well as little reward.

So it is not surprising the devs would have us stay where we are a little longer to rest, to wait. But this City of Heroes, this community of PvPers, this collection of test players was not built by those who waited and rested and wished to look behind them. This game was conquered by those who moved forward--and so will space.

If this capsule history of our progress teaches us anything, it is that PvPers, in their quest for knowledge and progress, are determined and will always be ignored. The exploration of space will go ahead, whether you join in it or not, and it is one of the great adventures of all time, and no SG which expects to be the leader of other SGs can expect to stay behind in this race for space.

We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon... we choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.

In other words, Opus withdraws from the ladder. We are going to the Moon.

Good game, devs. You win.

Originally Posted by Neuronia

Looks like we've rescheduled this to a few weeks from now.

Of course, the 3 v 3 Champ ladder could settle this, kind of...since Exit and Peril are from Opus, Philly is from Con and Joe and I from dUmb...CondUmbOpus?

Originally Posted by CriticalKat

Ok so the devs idea of "working as intended" or "fixt" is not necessarily accurate.

Is

• Banned: Dominator Poisonous Ray
• Banned: Corrupter Lingering Radiation

Working or still broke?

Originally Posted by macskull

You can't run the both at the same time (why would you want to, when one is more than enough with DR?), but you can have both in your build.

Originally Posted by Xanatos

Well that sounds like something that's up to NCSoft and not the PVPEC.

The PVPEC doesn't have any REAL legitimacy does it?

Originally Posted by Borderline Boss

no jimmay I am cooler than you smd

Originally Posted by Mattwo7

yeah even if you copy you still have to use the main updater. Reason being the main updater gets copied too...

Originally Posted by macskull

My test Mind/Emp has 1560 HP and 57.5% range bonus through sets (plus that range IO in HO and AP for a range of 146.4 feet before DR). As far as powers from the primary I have:

* Mesmerize: 3 Apocs, 3 Glad Javs
* Dominate: 3 Glad Nets, 3 Glad Javs
* Total Domination: 5 Glad Nets
* Terrify: 5 Glimpse of the Abyss

Building for HP and range with those (Glad Nets give 10% range 3-slotted which is huge) PvP sets and purples, and bit of HP and rech with the Glimpse of the Abyss set. 44 points KB protection (could be higher if I needed) and only 48.5% global rech but that's still enough to keep Fort on 3 people.

Originally Posted by Psoma

lol That was my dueling-emp-for-lolz build. :P