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I'd appreciate it if someone could tailor a build with hotfeet and all (looking at you Kitty for proposing hot feet!)

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Hot Feet is a fantastic power but don't get it unless you got a friendly kin around...very hard to sustain because of the massive enduse...especially coupled with /storm so I wouldnt recommend it.

The build I posted above will work really well. You could swap the Ice epic for the fire epic for some more damage and Fire Shield coupled with Steamy Mist is awesome.
Look at it this way:

Fire Epic: Good damage and awesome shield....especially with Steamy Mist.

Ice Epic: More or less unkillable and fast regen/recovery midfight so don't have to worry about end.

up to you....

Your build looks really good actually.

Just a few things.

Bonfire really isnt very good for the most part unless you manage to trap something in a corner. Skip it and get acrobatics instead.

Get flashfire asap....probably the best and most important power in fire control...and slot it 2 acc, 2 rech, 2 dis dur.

Lightning Storm doesnt "really" need accuracies. Test with none or one to see how it is (been ages since I've had...can't really remember).

Ice storm could use some dmg enhancements.

Hibernate could use 1 or 2 heals (doesnt really need them though...but nice to have).

Ice blast isnt very good after the nerf anymore. Take something like Ring of Fire instead since it does about the same damage, has a faster recharge, set up containment and costs less endurance.

Some other things.

even if /storms very endheavy you may have overslotted the end reductions.

Would personally rather have Tornado than o2 boost.

Aid self is very nice to have....would mean you have to skip 2 other good powers though

EDIT: In response to Serefia:
Epic shields are awesome! The defense based shields such as the ice and earth shields are tricky to fully test and appreciate because of the nature of defense....but 50% resistance to s/l damage?!? Not bad imo. And if you do have the shield it's not exactly needed to use hibernate as much as Serefia likes to use it

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My proposed PvE build would probably be something like this:

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Archetype: Controller
Primary: Fire Control
Secondary: Storm Summoning
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01) --> Char==> Acc(1) Acc(7) Rechg(7) Rechg(9) Hold(9) Hold(43)
01) --> Gale==> Acc(1)
02) --> Fire Cages==> Acc(2) Acc(3) EndRdx(3)
04) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(4) EndRdx(5) EndRdx(5)
06) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(6)
08) --> Swift==> Run(8)
10) --> Steamy Mist==> EndRdx(10) EndRdx(11) DmgRes(11) DmgRes(19) DmgRes(43)
12) --> Flashfire==> Acc(12) Acc(13) Rechg(13) Rechg(15) DisDur(15) DisDur(19)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Freezing Rain==> Rechg(16) Rechg(17) Rechg(17) EndRdx(46) EndRdx(46)
18) --> Hurdle==> Jump(18)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Hurricane==> EndRdx(22) EndRdx(23) TH_DeBuf(23) TH_DeBuf(25) TH_DeBuf(43)
24) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(24) EndRdx(25)
26) --> Cinders==> Acc(26) Acc(27) Rechg(27) Rechg(34) Hold(37) Hold(40)
28) --> Hasten==> Rechg(28) Rechg(29) Rechg(29)
30) --> Ring of Fire==> Acc(30) Acc(31) Dmg(31) Dmg(31) Dmg(34)
32) --> Fire Imps==> Acc(32) Acc(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(34)
35) --> Tornado==> Dmg(35) Dmg(36) Dmg(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(37) EndRdx(37)
38) --> Lightning Storm==> Rechg(38) Rechg(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Dmg(40) EndRdx(40)
41) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(41) Rechg(42) Rechg(42) Heal(42) Heal(50)
44) --> Frozen Armor==> EndRdx(44) EndRdx(45) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(46)
47) --> Ice Storm==> Rechg(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50) Dmg(50)
49) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(49)
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Nice one Rubes

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(And while I take part in their raids, I still say Union's are better organised - they don't even have specific colours for ATs...)

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Because it's not needed.

Your builds pretty good Kitty....haven't had time to reply before now....but Psyline very alternative build really meant I had to post here.
Do yourself a favour and scrub the inside of your head as I did after reading it

I'd advice against teleport in PvP as it's too tricky and too enddraining to use efficiently.

Same goes for fly really as you will be a sitting duck when supression kicks in.

Health really isn't that useful for squishies because of the low hps and it wont save you in PvP.

Deceive is a nice power in PvE but it's uses are limited in PvP.

Lighting Storm is again a very nice power in PvE but since it's stationary, doesn't do fantastic dmg and simply costs too much end to use I'd say skip it.

My proposed build would look like this:


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Name: ill / storm
Level: 50
Archetype: Controller
Primary: Illusion Control
Secondary: Storm Summoning
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01) --> Blind==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Rechg(3) Rechg(5) Hold(5) Hold(7)
01) --> Gale==> Acc(1)
02) --> Spectral Wounds==> Acc(2) Acc(7) Dmg(9) Dmg(9) Dmg(11) Rechg(11)
04) --> Snow Storm==> EndRdx(4) EndRdx(13) EndRdx(37) Rechg(40) Slow(43) Slow(43)
06) --> Hurdle==> Jump(6) Jump(13)
08) --> Superior Invisibility==> EndRdx(8) EndRdx(15) EndRdx(15)
10) --> Steamy Mist==> EndRdx(10) EndRdx(17) DmgRes(17) DmgRes(19) DmgRes(19)
12) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(12) Jump(21)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Swift==> Run(16) Run(46)
18) --> Phantom Army==> Acc(18) Dmg(21) Dmg(23) Rechg(23) Rechg(25) Rechg(25)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(27) EndMod(27)
22) --> Freezing Rain==> Rechg(22) Rechg(29) Rechg(29) EndRdx(31) DefDeBuf(46)
24) --> Hurricane==> EndRdx(24) EndRdx(31) TH_DeBuf(31) TH_DeBuf(33) TH_DeBuf(33)
26) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(26) EndRdx(33)
28) --> Hasten==> Rechg(28) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
30) --> Super Speed==> Run(30) EndRdx(34)
32) --> Aid Other==> EndRdx(32)
35) --> Tornado==> Dmg(35) Dmg(36) Dmg(36) Rechg(36) Rechg(37) EndRdx(37)
38) --> Aid Self==> Heal(38) Heal(39) Heal(39) IntRdx(39) IntRdx(40) Rechg(40)
41) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(41) Rechg(42) Rechg(42) Heal(42) Heal(43)
44) --> Frozen Armor==> EndRdx(44) EndRdx(45) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(46)
47) --> Ice Blast==> Acc(47) Acc(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50) Rechg(50)
49) --> Spectral Terror==> Acc(49) Fear(50)
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I know I have both Sup Invis and Steamy Mist in this build and you could probably lose one of them if you wanted to but the resistances in SM is just too good to pass on imo.

Hmm Mael? How can you consider it being a nerf as they're changing the power to what it's intended? It's not like it's a nerf coming out of thin air, as the recent controller thing that shall not be named change.

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Why you got an Enzyme in Stealth mate? Enzyme is ToHit Debuffs/Defense Debuffs/End Cost.Its a Cyto you want in there

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Check again.

We have for the most part held the raids on Sundays since it's the day with the most people online.

We found that Fridays and Saturday yields a smaller turnout...but can be more interesting as some people "may" be slightly drunk

EDIT: I'm not sure I'll be able to make it for this raid...won't know until a few hours before. PA dropping shouldn't be a problem as we have quite a few experienced droppers

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ps. Arch, theres the name for your next troller

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hehe...afraid to say that I'm probably done with controllers...I've done most, I suck at playing them and I've been left pretty gutted by the last nerf.

P.S: Think I actually had a toon that got deleted at one point called Arch Flamboyant

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Edited for truth

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theres that trollerenvy again Dark...stopped using your meds?

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ps. Arch, theres the name for your next troller

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hehe...afraid to say that I'm probably done with controllers...I've done most and I've been left pretty gutted by the last nerf.

P.S: Think I actually had a toon that got deleted at one point called Arch Flamboyant

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Im 45 now so will be joining on my blaster for the defiant raid. What am I to expect?

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You can read our guide HERE other than that it's pretty much impossible to describe....really have to see it for yourself.

The guide isn't fully updated to i7/i8 standards yet but is still pretty accurate...hey what can I say? we're lazy

EDIT: If anyone feels like taking on the task and leading this please do. We don't know atm when we're gonna run a new one so feel free to step up....most know the drill now so it shouldnt be that hard

/em doesthefunkychicken

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I understand about the need for Stone Cages as it goes nicely with Stalagmites, giving you essentially another hold....but i've heard from somewhere that it cancels knockback/up and that would render Earthquake pretty much useless, can someone shed some light on this for me.

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Most AoE immobs (except crushing field from gravity and tenebrous tentacles from dark) negates knockdown for 10 seconds so yes you shouldnt be using it with earthquake.
I usually do a stalagmite + stone cages combo and then use earthquake + quicksand combo if stalagmites is down...throw in volcanic gasses when needed.

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I was gunna drop cages for prison and slot it for damage, then leave the mobs wandering around as there's normally enough AoE damage flying around....and a tasty way of annoyin the tanks

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Stone prison is more or less your only way to do damage but its really really bad so not that great to slot for.

Stone prison is handy for AVs as it'll immob an AV in one appliance. Stone prison + volcanic gasses + a few fossilize and you got yourself a held AV.

So...? A costume contest where you get judged by your description? And you have to have the "right concept" to be able to win or?

Looks pretty good. My points about health and stone cages still stands though.
I would probably move some powers around...especially speed boost should be taken at 20 or 22.

You should really keep siphon power (and you dont get much else to choose from at that lvl anyway) as it's an awesome dmg debuff on AVs...if you do decide to go with another power it should be Stone Prison, which, again is awesome against AVs....but personally rather get Siphon Power though.

My 50s build is below which has the Ice epic and has quicksand late but I leveled him with the fire epic and quicksand earlier in the build. Apart from that this is basically how I would level a earth/kin.

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Name: Arch Chavriel
Level: 50
Archetype: Controller
Primary: Earth Control
Secondary: Kinetics
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01) --> Fossilize==> Acc(1) Acc(3) Rechg(3) Rechg(5) Hold(5) Hold(7)
01) --> Transfusion==> Acc(1) Acc(7) Rechg(9) Heal(9) Heal(11) Heal(11)
02) --> Siphon Power==> Acc(2) Acc(13) Rechg(34)
04) --> Stone Cages==> Acc(4) Acc(13) EndRdx(15)
06) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(6) Jump(43)
08) --> Hurdle==> Jump(8) Jump(43)
10) --> Siphon Speed==> Acc(10) Acc(15) Rechg(17) Rechg(17) Rechg(19)
12) --> Stalagmites==> Acc(12) Acc(19) DisDur(21) DisDur(21) Rechg(23) Rechg(23)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Swift==> Run(16)
18) --> Earthquake==> Rechg(18) Rechg(25) Rechg(25)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(27) EndMod(27)
22) --> Speed Boost==> EndMod(22) EndMod(29) EndMod(29)
24) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(24) EndRdx(37)
26) --> Volcanic Gasses==> Rechg(26) Rechg(31) Rechg(31) Hold(40) Hold(40) Hold(46)
28) --> Hasten==> Rechg(28) Rechg(31) Rechg(33)
30) --> Super Speed==> Run(30) EndRdx(46)
32) --> Animate Stone==> Acc(32) Acc(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(34) Dmg(34)
35) --> Transference==> Acc(35) Acc(36) Rechg(36) EndMod(36) EndMod(37) EndMod(37)
38) --> Fulcrum Shift==> Acc(38) Acc(39) Rechg(39) Rechg(39) Rechg(40)
41) --> Hibernate==> Rechg(41) Rechg(42) Rechg(42) Heal(42) Heal(43)
44) --> Frozen Armor==> EndRdx(44) EndRdx(45) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(45) DefBuf(46)
47) --> Ice Storm==> Rechg(47) Rechg(48) Rechg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50) Dmg(50)
49) --> Quicksand==> Rechg(49) Slow(50)
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Drop the immobs from stone cages....its base duration is fine. Slot it 2 acc, 1 end red

Siphon Speed should be 2 acc, 3 rech as said in a above post.

Stalagmites should be slotted 2 acc, 1-2 rech, 2-3 dis dur. It's probably the best power in the set and it's gonna be one of your most used so consider going with another travelpower....try it out and see how you like it.

Health is basically redundant on a squishy but if you do decide to go Flight then of course its better than hurdle.

Drop the recharge from speed boost....only affects the recharge of speed boost itself and seeing it recharges in 2 secs its not exactly needed.

Volcanic Gasses doesn't need accuracies....and the hold durations doesn't really do much difference so 3 recharges is all it really needs. If you have extra slots the put hold durations in it anyway.

Transference should probably be 2 acc, 1-2 rech, 2-3 end mods according to your needs.

You can basically pick whatever epic you want as a earth/kin....wouldn't recommend Primal though as the single blast is now utter [censored] and your powersets doesn't benefit that much from Power Boost.

Fire is my personal favourite but you should really pick up the shield....makes a huge difference.

Don't take Salt Crystals. It's pants and most of your powers will just disrupt it.

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I cut/pasted the score together (as it wouldn't let me get it all in one screenshot <_&lt and uploaded it.

Score!

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Hehe....support = win!

Can still solo...and still with ease...just takes longer.

/kins and /rads are still fine but almost everything else are pure support now

As Dawn said there's next to no reason to use trollers in PvP anymore apart from pure support....apart from maybe the aforementioned /rads.

The nerf was incoming...but still believe this was a very poor way of implementing it and I strongly oppose it.

My trollers are now (for the most part) back to precontainment damage days and with half the controls and I feel neutered in PvP....not at all happy.

They sought to nerf fire/kins....instead they've achieved to give them the evil eye and kicked basically every other combo in the nuts....apart from the "trollers are an only support AT" sayers.

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the best is the one you will entertain to play.
there is no uber build
when you see a uber troller its the player that is good .

i saw people owning with "non PvP oreinted" build.

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A good player with a bad build beats bad players with bad builds.

A good player with a good build beats bad players with good builds.

Depending on the situation the good player with a bad build will beat bad players with good builds, but will not beat good players with good builds.
The OP here wants to be competitive with other PvP-oriented builds, so he asked which Controller would suit him. My vote? Mind/Rad.

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Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers,
A peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked.
If Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers,
Where's the peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked?

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Damn! Beat me to it!

well...he has the name Mr. Poo for a reason

Personally don't like him much other than to take alphastrikes and tanking psi AVs (which he does very well).

You don't need him other than if you wish to solo once in a while but he's still nice to have for the above reasons.

You're the only one who really can decide

AFAIK it doesn't as it's classified as a pet.

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Lighting Field - While active, you emit a storm of electricity that constantly damages all nearby foes.

Blazing Aura - While active, you are surrounded by flames that continuously burn all foes that attempt to enter melee range...

Death Shroud - You become a focus point for the Netherworld allowing negative energy to seep from your body that will continuously damage all foes in melee range....

Icicles & Quills - Basically again while active they are meant to damage anyone continuously in melee range..

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Put some acc in there and it'll work. Breaks hide and interrupts AS.

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Repulsion Field - This toggle power creates a field that violently repels nearby foes...

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What Extremus said.

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Assault - While active you are resistant to taunt & placate ( No it dont )

Tactics - While active protects from confuse and fear effects ( No it dont )

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It's resistance not protection. It'll lower the duration of said effects

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Also with say Superior Invins on no other concealment power works with it. Yet the good old Stalkers get Hide then they put Stealth on and if they have a team mate with Grant invis their laughing all the way to the bank. No wonder everyone in Sirens is now saying that the Stalkers Pawn and now seeing less and les people in there.


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Stalkers can stack stealth powers...it's one of their 3 special abilities. ATs are meant to be different

Everything in this game has counters, especially stalkers. Just go find some of the numerous threads where stalkers says cm should be nerfed

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indeed, the temp should be very useful for the raid, still gonna restrict tanks from hold phase however, not sure about the effect with guantlet on a temp but still 2 holds or more only

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Would personally strongly advice against use of the temp power.

I was told you guys suffered quite a bit of lag during the clearing and holdphase and with teh attendance you seem to be getting I would count on quite a bit again....using this temp will add greatly to this....skip it.

Gauntlet won't ever override the normal taunt from the hamitank so don't worry about that. Tanks unfortunately just dont add much to the holdingphase other than lag

Another thing I would like to add is: I heard you guys only had about 6 or so AMs running? See if you can get more of this. We normally have between 10 and 20 running during our Defiant raids and we operate with less people than you do and I find it hard to believe that rads are more common on Defiant than on Onion.

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I have a few high level controllers and they do eventually loose their novelty and can become boring, repetitive or tedious not to mention relatively weak (however useful one or two of thier 'controls' or 'buffs/debuffs' can be on a team). So I can relate to your thoughts. My solution with the illusionist, was to play him when I felt like it but I didn't delete him.. he's now lvl 42 after 18 months.

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That's your opinion I guess....Controllers are imo the single most interesting AT to play in this game.

Calling them "weak" is probably the single worst description I've ever heard anyone call controllers. And saying they only have 1 or 2 things to contribute to a team?....hmmm!?

Grav/Rad is a great combo.

If you really don't like playing that toon I see no point in doing so but it really is a very good combo.

Can you possibly post your build?