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Quote:Well, that very well may be the case, but it very well may not be the case. And what your experiencing is *not* hard and fast proof there's a problem on the Dev's side of things. Because what you're experiencing is *not* what everyone else is experiencing. If it was all a problem of CoH coding, everyone would have the same problem, and they don't.Originally Posted by NordBlast
Look Zombie Man,
The problem with i17 is that i17 consumes more CPU than i16.
When I was running i16 CoX on dual dualcore system, maximum CPU utilization on one of cores was 70-80%. Since i17 release it consumes 100% even with lower gfx settings, which makes game unplayable.
And no, I'm not running Ultra Mode, in fact I'm lowered gfx settings way below that I had in i16. It didn't help.
Something that devs introduced or changed in i17 demands much more CPU. If it is related to Ultra Mode, then their claim that Ultra Mode wouldn't affect players who aren't using it is false, and they should come clean about this. If something else causes higher CPU utilization, then we need ability to turn it off, or minimum (or not so minimum) system requirements should be changed.
In any event, i'm strongly suspect that multiple reports we seeing regarding lag, mapserve, ventrilo and Skype problems are related to 100 or near 100% CPU utilization caused by i17.
The huge difference between machines besides the usual suspects of hardware configurations and drivers is all the other background programs, and you've got a truckload of them, which is always recommended against by everyone remotely connected and in-the-know with regard to running any highly graphical intensive programs on a computer. CoH's own minimum requirements don't have an footnote that says, "Including machines that run 40 processes running in the background." And if you have 40 processes running the background and CoH won't work for you, you can't say, "It's all CoH's fault," without first taking them out of the equation.
And the next line in this argument is likely to be, "But I had these 40 processes running before this patch!" And the answer to that is, "You were lucky." There's no assurance that CoH will run concurrently with any other process that's not needed for the operating system or for the game itself.
And if it's discovered that the new coding in this patch conflicts with something running in the background, then who's fault is that? Did the CoH Devs do something wrong, or is it the fault of the programmers of that other process who have faulty code, only there just never happened to be a conflict beforehand?
It's well known that some of the graphical problems are on the side of the GPU manufacturers and faulty drivers. It's why driver updates sometimes clears up problems... it wasn't CoH's fault at all. If in a new patch, the code makes a call to a graphical FX that's supposed to be there, but the driver's coding is screwed up and doesn't handle it right, it would seem that the new patch is at fault, when, in fact, it's the driver's manufacturer's fault.
We've already discovered software conflicts with I17: ATI Hotkey Poller; MSE; and some others. It's anyone's guess which programs are the one making the illegal codes at this point.
If you don't want to try to see if it's a software conflict, then you're the one who may never have CoH ever playing right on your computer again. -
You should be able to run the game just fine because of your set-up.
What might be a problem is one of the many programs/services running in the background. You can try the solution below which disables all that stuff and if you can run CoH after that, then you'll know it's a software conflict.
http://help.ncsoft.com/cgi-bin/ncsof...hp?p_faqid=986
Either way, the start up registry "O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [GEST] =" looks fishy and should be deleted unless you know exactly which program that is. -
Again, I hope you updated Windows.
And you have *a lot* of programs and services running in the background. You might want to try the solution given here below and see how your computer behaves running the game with all those programs/services disabled.
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You have a lot of programs and services running in the background. It could be any one of them that is in conflict with CoH. You could try this troubleshooting step to see if that's the case: http://help.ncsoft.com/cgi-bin/ncsof...hp?p_faqid=986
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On my computer, and on someone else's who posted a CohHelper file, I saw this:
Quote:Even though AO is shut completely off and the advanced settings are hidden from the user in the Options Window, CohHelper is reporting that the advanced settings are still set for minimal AO settings.Advanced Occlusion Settings: No
Ambient Occlusion: Off
Occlusion Strength: Off
Blur: Bilateral
Ambient Resolution: Performance
So, here's the question: Does this mean that there always is some form of minimal AO running, even if it's been shut off by the user? Or does shutting it off on the part of the user really shuts down AO though the advanced settings are enabled in the registry? -
Quote:I try to!Originally Posted by Predatoric
lol zombieman i think just about every post mentioning i17 bugs you pasted that now
What's sad is that only about 10% actually comply. And even sadder, those that do comply usually are helped. And even sadder still, those who fight me questioning why we need all that information. Now, I can understanding wanting to know why all that info is helpful, but to come to the boards seeking help and then fighting about cooperating with that help is astounding.
The real props goes to Zloth for developing the CohHelper. It pulls all the relevant dxdiag info, plus CoH registry info into one place. The HijackThis is to check for viruses and conflicts with other programs running on the computer. -
Quote:Well, something is weird here. Running at 1.3 GB of RAM is normal at the highest Shader settings.Originally Posted by Novaline
I've already isolated the problem, its the patch
Since today's patch, CoH has increased in RAM usage going from 600-800MB to 1.3GB of RAM even with the graphic settings at the bare minimum.
And it switches its CPU priority to Below Normal which clearly is a bad thing.
But your CohHelper report doesn't have the Shader settings... it doesn't have any of the graphical settings. Is that because CohHelper didn't provide it, or because you edited them out? If you edited them out, please post the full CohHelper report.
Furthermore, I run at 1.3 GB of RAM on a 2 GB machine all the time without a fps hit. So, that is not necessarily your problem with fps.
Also, please post a HijackThis - it will show us what's running on your computer concurrently with CoH. Click on "Do a system Scan and save a logfile." It will automatically open up Notepad and put the info there. Make sure Wordwrap is off in Notepad (Format > Wordwrap unchecked) before you cut and paste here. -
Quote:I went to their web site and all the series 4 drivers had a date of at least late 2009. Your driver is dated 2008.Originally Posted by XHacker
Its the lastest one
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Quote:Well, sorry to hear that, but it's good to know.Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
i tried changing zones, changing toons, even changing to toon of other faction (got message on vill and changed to hero)
i know that the market is prolly getting pounded, but im not the only one to be experiencing this because thats where i got my edit was from another thread with approx same issue
the only thing thats worked for me so far is restarting the client
Hopefully new fixes can be accomplished without any more chunks of down time. -
Quote:Hi, kagurako!Originally Posted by kagurako
I have a now level 43 character (was 41 when issue 17 came out) that has fly and hover as travel powers. I normally slot fly with 3 slots and use single origins enhancements. That usually gives me around 103 mph flight speed. But since i17 came out my speed has dropped to 90 mph. After going up a couple of levels and buying new enhancements my flight speed has barely even moved a notch. 90.70 I think it is now. I know that it's not going to move alot but something is wrong for it to have dropped to begin with.
I also have the 30 day jetpack from ncsoft store which normally has a speed of around 70 mph I think and also my temp jet packs which have the same speed. After issue 17 they are now around 53 mph. This has affected all of my characters on my account and my spouses as well. So I was wonderering if anybody else has noticed anything like this.
I'm betting you're checking your speed by right-clicking on the fly/hover icons under your health bar. Unfortunately, the info in those icons are bugged. It's been cataloged by the player-run Wiki at this link:
paragonwiki.com/wiki/Known_Issues#Travel_Power_Status_Icons
Flight Speed is capped at 58.63 mph. You'll never fly faster than that. See here: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Travel_Powers. There is a place where you can monitor your REAL speed in the Combat Attributes window. You can get there by clicking on Powers over your powers tray. And then at the top of the Powers window, click on Combat Attributes. And then, if you want, right click on an attribute to have just those attributes stay popped up in a mini-window so that you can monitor those stats as you play.
You may want to download and use Mid's Hero & Villain Planner which will also give you accurate values for speed as you test out various types of enhancements.
Check out these threads:Quote:On a side note I have also noticed still as mentioned by some in others threads screen blinking, as when I maybe bring up my personal menu and check on badges, when i scroll the list all menus on screen will blink on and off for a second.
Then post the results of these two programs:
- CoH Helper - it will show us basic computer settings and your CoH configuration.
- HijackThis - it will show us what's running on your computer concurrently with CoH. Click on "Do a system Scan and save a logfile." It will automatically open up Notepad and put the info there. Make sure Wordwrap is off in Notepad (Format > Wordwrap unchecked) before you cut and paste here.
This will help us diagnose what wrong. -
Quote:See the post above yours. Please start a new thread with the CohHelper and HijackThis reports.Originally Posted by Lastjustice
I had an older graphics card, so I upgraded mine since I tried beta testing I17 and it could not run no matter what I tried to do. Sure enough when it went live the game was also unplayable. The screen was all one color, my characters were invisible on the selection screen. I opted to get a brand new graphics card with the most current drivers. I got a Radeon HD 4670, which I have version 10.4 on it. The game looks perfectly fine now.
Problem is the game is in a constant state of lag. I will continue to turn even a few secs after I was done pressing the direction. Making the game extremely frustrating to play as I walk about as straight as drunk man on a yacht in a storm. I put the game in safe mode, and it plays the same. I turns the graphics all way up, and all way down, there's no difference as the game just as laggy. it never crashed or DCed repeatedly, it just doesn't run well.
I upgraded my stuff, and it's mildly annoying as it's still running poorly. So far I17 been nothing but a blight on my gaming experience. I could really stand for it to get better. -
Quote:Well, then, quite frankly, you don't deserve our help.Originally Posted by Impish Kat
what further information?
This is a question of graphics SETTINGS, not a question of how the game is running.
I'm not going to be fiddling with anything else.
If you want to pre-diagnose your problem and only give us information you think is relevant then there's nothing more we can do for you.
You're just very much in the dark over how much that other stuff, which you think is irrelevant, can affect your current performance. -
Quote:I don't know what je_saist said in that other thread about Tankers, but everything je_saist said in this thread is correct, albeit in a not-so-nice way.
Originally Posted by Nihilii 
There's still people replying to je_saist ?
Dude has been consistently wrong on every post of his since he joined these boards. Every single one.
I don't know if it means anything in another language, but I find it ironic that his name looks like a misspelling of "I know" in french.
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Quote:Most likely the Marketing server is getting hammered with people trying to catch up for when it was offline and isn't able to recover from a 'too busy' error without disconnecting you first, which it isn't doing because... it's 'too busy.'Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
i was doing marketing for toons with full inventories, and then after a lot of transactions it gave me the "the market is too busy to process request"
i was like "ok then, time to change toons", so i did, and the market was still not letting me post or get items from the market, although it would let me get inf from sold items
as of now its been about 15-20 min since i got the "too busy" message and even after changing toons i cannot post or get any items to or from the market, i can still store stuff, but i cant post or remove any of those, i cant even get any items that i have listed for sale, i cannot even make offers to buy anything and this is after switching toons multiple times. i even switched from a villain to a hero to try WW and i cannot use the market at all right now.
i know something is messed up because before the market would give the too busy message and then about 2 min later i could do stuff on market again and it would not persist through switching toons
edit: after some info digging, noticed someone else had similar problem and they said that closing the game client and restarting works, but right now if you get "the market is busy processing request" it means you have to quit game and restart to make it work again
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Quote:Sorry, can't help you without the CohHelper and HijackThis. There's information in those reports which you have not posted here which may be the cause of the problems.Originally Posted by Impish Kat
Zombie, I have been to those threads and they do not address the problems I'm having... or if they do, the info is buried amongst a bunch of other inapplicable stuff.
I have posted both my Nvidia GeForce 7300 GT settings and my in-game settings to show what I have going.
Yes, my drivers are up to date (downloaded & installed from the Nvidia site)
I am NOT trying to run in Ultra Mode.
I AM just trying to find the settings that will bring back the quality I had before UM was implemented.
The specific question is: What settings do I need to change toa) get rid of the jagginess (raising the FSAA in game causes lag) &
For the record, Hubby IS running UM settings on his rig (a more current system), and the base items still look just as craptastic.
b) bring back the shadings on certain items in my base.
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Quote:Check out these threads:Originally Posted by DangerForce
I am Having the same problem I try to update the drivers but everything says I have te correct drivers I am running a SONY VAIO
Then post the results of these two programs:
- CoH Helper - it will show us basic computer settings and your CoH configuration.
- HijackThis - it will show us what's running on your computer concurrently with CoH. Click on "Do a system Scan and save a logfile." It will automatically open up Notepad and put the info there. Make sure Wordwrap is off in Notepad (Format > Wordwrap unchecked) before you cut and paste here.
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1. Update Vista Windows.
2. Go to your computer's or motherboard manufacturer's web site and see if there is a driver update for your motherboard/CPU chipset.
3. Please post the results of HijackThis - it will show us what's running on your computer concurrently with CoH. Click on "Do a system Scan and save a logfile." It will automatically open up Notepad and put the info there. Make sure Wordwrap is off in Notepad (Format > Wordwrap unchecked) before you cut and paste here. -
Check out these threads:
Then post the results of these two programs:
- CoH Helper - it will show us basic computer settings and your CoH configuration.
- HijackThis - it will show us what's running on your computer concurrently with CoH. Click on "Do a system Scan and save a logfile." It will automatically open up Notepad and put the info there. Make sure Wordwrap is off in Notepad (Format > Wordwrap unchecked) before you cut and paste here.
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Check out these threads:
Then post the results of these two programs:
- CoH Helper - it will show us basic computer settings and your CoH configuration.
- HijackThis - it will show us what's running on your computer concurrently with CoH. Click on "Do a system Scan and save a logfile." It will automatically open up Notepad and put the info there. Make sure Wordwrap is off in Notepad (Format > Wordwrap unchecked) before you cut and paste here.
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It was a undocumented change (stealth patch!).
Got it documented on the Wiki: paragonwiki.com/wiki/Issue_17#Quality_of_Life_Improvements -
Quote:I think you wildly misread that.Originally Posted by DarknessEternal
I gave you a correct answer. Don't be snotty.
The author was using 'you' in the 'generic person' meaning. Not as a slight to you personally.
E.g., "You know, how on the Internet it's difficult to read a person's 'tone of voice? How does one avoid that?" -
Check out these threads:
Then post the results of these two programs:
- CoH Helper - it will show us basic computer settings and your CoH configuration.
- HijackThis - it will show us what's running on your computer concurrently with CoH. Click on "Do a system Scan and save a logfile." It will automatically open up Notepad and put the info there. Make sure Wordwrap is off in Notepad (Format > Wordwrap unchecked) before you cut and paste here.
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Quote:Yes. Global mail is... Global. Global means cross-server.Originally Posted by Substrate
Woah ... what? You can transfer across servers via @Global email?
But there are Global regions: US Test Servers; US Live Servers; EU Test Servers; EU Live Servers. Within a region, global mail and attachments can be sent.
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1. You have a single core CPU, so, you're probably running at 100% CPU cycle usage. Trying to run any other program or service in the background is going to cause slowdowns.
2. You have only 1 Gig of RAM. After playing the game for a while, you are probably using up that 1 Gig and pagefiling memory to the hard drive, which as mentioned above, is starting to get full. Accessing the hard drive during the game is the number one reason for slowdowns. You will see immediate performance gains if you can add more RAM (e.g., you load times between zone cut in half). Also, clean your hard drive...1. Go to control panel and then Add/Remove Programs and get rid of any programs you don't need any more.
3. You have a 5200 GPU. That's one generation older and 2 degrees of competency under what you need to be running a modern 3D program. It was never designed to utilize any of the bells and whistles of 3D gaming. While it's above the minimum requirements to run the game, it's certainly below *recommended* minimum requirements. And it's doubtful nVidia will continue to support it with updated drivers. You'll only be able to run the game on the most minimal settings.
2. Go into Windows Explorer (not the Internet Explorer) and right click on your C: drive and chose Properties. Under the General Tab, you'll see a button for Disk Cleanup, run it and get rid of deleted (recycle bin) and temp files.
3. Under the General Tab, make sure Indexing is not selected. Unless you need to do quick searches of your documents on a regular basis, you don't need this. It may take a while to propagate the un-indexing to all the sub-folders.
4. Go to the Tools Tab and click on the defrag button. Run the defragger. It may take an hour or two to defrag. Make sure the computer doesn't power down during it (you'll find power options where you change the screen saver -- right click on desktop...).
4. According to your HijackThis, you don't have any viruses or trojans, but you do have more programs and services running in the background than you need to. A good, well-behaved program runs when you call for it and then unloads itself completely when you close it. There might be some programs you want running all the time in the background... but only when you authorized it. If a program did that without your permission, it is malware, IMO. It insinuated itself onto your computer. While not a virus, it's more like a chronic disease. These things can be killed from starting at start-up:C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jqs.exe
Make sure you don't have two anti-spy, real-time virus protections running at the same time. Until you get more RAM, you might want to disable these while playing:
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Java\Java Update\jusched.exe
O2 - BHO: Windows Live Sign-in Helper - {9030D464-4C02-4ABF-8ECC-5164760863C6} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WindowsLiveLogin.dll
O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In 2 SSV Helper - {DBC80044-A445-435b-BC74-9C25C1C588A9} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jp2ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: JQSIEStartDetectorImpl - {E7E6F031-17CE-4C07-BC86-EABFE594F69C} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\deploy\jqs\ie\jqs_plugin.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RoxWatchTray] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\9.0\SharedCOM\RoxWatchTray9.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Java\Java Update\jusched.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IgfxTray] C:\WINDOWS\system32\igfxtray.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HotKeysCmds] C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [DAEMON Tools Lite] "C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools Lite\daemon.exe" -autorun
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Google Update] "C:\Documents and Settings\Lash\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Update\GoogleUpdate.exe" /c
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Steam] "C:\Program Files\Steam\Steam.exe" -silent
O4 - Global Startup: Desktop Manager.lnk = C:\Program Files\Research In Motion\BlackBerry\DesktopMgr.exe
O9 - Extra button: Run IMVU - {d9288080-1baa-4bc4-9cf8-a92d743db949} - C:\Documents and Settings\Lash\Start Menu\Programs\IMVU\Run IMVU.lnk
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: @xpsp3res.dll,-20001 - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O16 - DPF: {4F1E5B1A-2A80-42CA-8532-2D05CB959537} (MSN Photo Upload Tool) - http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w3/resources/MSNPUpld.cab
O16 - DPF: {6414512B-B978-451D-A0D8-FCFDF33E833C} (WUWebControl Class) - http://update.microsoft.com/windowsu...?1272855322295
O16 - DPF: {C52439A0-2693-4E40-B141-9F9AD5257241} (Lexmark eDiagnostics Class) - https://ediagnostics.lexmark.com/serval.cab
O16 - DPF: {CF40ACC5-E1BB-4AFF-AC72-04C2F616BCA7} -
O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\1050\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
O23 - Service: Java Quick Starter (JavaQuickStarterService) - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jqs.exe
O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
O23 - Service: Roxio UPnP Renderer 9 - Sonic Solutions - C:\Program Files\Roxio\Digital Home 9\RoxioUPnPRenderer9.exe
O23 - Service: Roxio Upnp Server 9 - Sonic Solutions - C:\Program Files\Roxio\Digital Home 9\RoxioUpnpService9.exe
O23 - Service: LiveShare P2P Server 9 (RoxLiveShare9) - Sonic Solutions - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\9.0\SharedCOM\RoxLiveShare9.exe
O23 - Service: RoxMediaDB9 - Sonic Solutions - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\9.0\SharedCOM\RoxMediaDB9.exe
O23 - Service: Roxio Hard Drive Watcher 9 (RoxWatch9) - Sonic Solutions - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\9.0\SharedCOM\RoxWatch9.exe
C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
C:\Program Files\SpywareGuard\sgmain.exe
C:\Program Files\SpywareGuard\sgbhp.exe
O2 - BHO: SpywareGuard Download Protection - {4A368E80-174F-4872-96B5-0B27DDD11DB2} - C:\Program Files\SpywareGuard\dlprotect.dll
O2 - BHO: Spybot-S&D IE Protection - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O4 - Startup: SpywareGuard.lnk = C:\Program Files\SpywareGuard\sgmain.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SpybotSD TeaTimer] C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {DFB852A3-47F8-48C4-A200-58CAB36FD2A2} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Spybot - Search & Destroy Configuration - {DFB852A3-47F8-48C4-A200-58CAB36FD2A2} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll